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let's tax the wealthy. well, what is wealthy? sunday that as 10 million in the bank, had a good year. there is not a clear picture of what the definition of that is. melissa: even if they are in danger, but this does not hurt the warren buffett's of the world and that they don't mind it, but a whole bunch of people who have saved for retirement under trying to live off those investments and dividends. it's going to hurt them instead. i don't lose sleep over that. but we do worry about the much smaller investor, maybe he doesn't impact the market where you think. they share care about this. >> that is entirely reasonable position to take, but it is also a little bit, let's say condescending to think that those people don't know what is best for them. melissa: i didn't say they don't know what's best for them. the amount they have available to investors less. they don't have a lot of extra dollars. >> i wasn't trying to indicate that you were saying that. those people tend to be reacting to the news that obama was reelected in a wa
let's tax the wealthy. well, what is wealthy? sunday that as 10 million in the bank, had a good year. there is not a clear picture of what the definition of that is. melissa: even if they are in danger, but this does not hurt the warren buffett's of the world and that they don't mind it, but a whole bunch of people who have saved for retirement under trying to live off those investments and dividends. it's going to hurt them instead. i don't lose sleep over that. but we do worry about the much...
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some say i want to make more taxes and do not raise taxes. [talking over each other] >> walgreen's is saying we want to make investments to create jobs. what you guys in washington d.c. are going to do, what is coming down the road from you and we had this debate about john boehner basically saying we got to put obamacare -- [talking over each other] liz: putting obamacare into the fiscal cliff negotiations so for two large drugstore chains to say you got to get going. gerri: interesting to see if he derail everything. liz: they have a seat at the table. is not political. it seems to me when you read what they say it is not like they are saying we want a voice in what is going on. there saying our custome are concerned. of course it is a revenue problem. shoppers and consumers are not coming in because ey're worried about the fiscal cliff. gerri: all singing the with one voice. interesting to see if anybody hears that. thanks for coming on. appreciate it. guess what else has joined the fiscal liftoff? the federal gas tax, special interests in
some say i want to make more taxes and do not raise taxes. [talking over each other] >> walgreen's is saying we want to make investments to create jobs. what you guys in washington d.c. are going to do, what is coming down the road from you and we had this debate about john boehner basically saying we got to put obamacare -- [talking over each other] liz: putting obamacare into the fiscal cliff negotiations so for two large drugstore chains to say you got to get going. gerri: interesting...
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revenues and raising tax rates. i get it. but do your constituents get it? >> isn't this where i'm supposed to confess my sins to my preacher. >> when you have four people dead, how do you call that hype? >> how many security contractors died in iraq. do you know? >> i don't. >> as u.n. ambassador, she has an obligation not just to be a puppet. >> when i see this focus on what was essentially a small fire fight, it's impossible to figure out what happens on them sometimes. >> she could conceivably get your vote. >> the emphasis has been extremely political probably because fox was operating as a wing of the political party. >> tom ricks, thank you for joining us. >> as far as young women are concerned, i can state my position on abortion. other than that leave the issue alone. >> 20 hail marys, 20 our fathers. ja let's get to our fanl. ana marie cox is a correspondent for "the guardian," and msnbc political analyst karen finney. karen, we just heard senator john mccain a moment ago in "top lines" saying, okay, from
revenues and raising tax rates. i get it. but do your constituents get it? >> isn't this where i'm supposed to confess my sins to my preacher. >> when you have four people dead, how do you call that hype? >> how many security contractors died in iraq. do you know? >> i don't. >> as u.n. ambassador, she has an obligation not just to be a puppet. >> when i see this focus on what was essentially a small fire fight, it's impossible to figure out what happens on...
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let's have income tax, 15%, gift taxes, 15%, let's make sure that warren buffett finally starts paying at least as much as his secretary, in the percentage, and, what has been proposed, here, by the president, will not have warren buffett paying the same as his secretary, in percentage. let's have a flat tax, lou. let's take the president at his word. if you make more you will pay more and this is the only way that that is going to happen. >> lou: you know, i believe the speaker boehner, perhaps the president himself may have been talking to you, talking to steve forbes and others who talked about the possibility of reforming the entire tax code. that could -- >> this is a great time. you know, the kind of time... and, not only that, let's don't forget the last time that the senate had a budget, it was when harry reid worked with his friend, speaker pelosi and nobody in the 2008 budget complained that it wasn't spending enough money. let's go back to 2008. $2.5 trillion, and cuts off a trillion in spending, right there. >> lou: there are all sorts of ways to get there, as you suggest h
let's have income tax, 15%, gift taxes, 15%, let's make sure that warren buffett finally starts paying at least as much as his secretary, in the percentage, and, what has been proposed, here, by the president, will not have warren buffett paying the same as his secretary, in percentage. let's have a flat tax, lou. let's take the president at his word. if you make more you will pay more and this is the only way that that is going to happen. >> lou: you know, i believe the speaker boehner,...
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reform and spending cuts over the raising of taxes. here is the senate republican leader on what the g.o.p. is offering. >> without compromising our principles we put skin in the game and recognition to the fact while democrats don't run this town, neither do we. we have been responsible even as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that you will not materialize later. the american people have seen that game before. they won't be fooled again. >> house republicans are planning to bring in on wednesday a number of c.e.o.'s of caterpillar, goldman sachs and all state and other key players on fiscal includes including erskine bowles co-author of the simpson-bowles and the republicans want the business community to hear their ideas and make the case a big deal should include spending cuts and reforms. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from capitol hill. grover norquist will join neil cavuto next hour and talk about breaking the anti-tax pledge by some republicans. >> the generation leader who brokered the
reform and spending cuts over the raising of taxes. here is the senate republican leader on what the g.o.p. is offering. >> without compromising our principles we put skin in the game and recognition to the fact while democrats don't run this town, neither do we. we have been responsible even as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that you will not materialize later. the american people have seen that game before. they won't be fooled again....
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tax rates. there's ways of doing that. >> republicans always put revenue on the table. democrats always promise to cut spending. we never cut spending. what i'm looking for is more revenue for entitlement reform. >> and john boehner's called for a short term fix to overt the fiscal cliff so congress can work on on a bigger deal in 2013. but in an op-ed, republican senator bob corker says both sides need to carve out a $4 trillion package that includes both revenue hikes and spending cuts by the end of the year. >>> still to come, the miss crest shopping day of the year for online retailers. snapping up deals on big ike ket item. we'll get a look. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> today is cyber monday. analysts say it's not as big a day as it's been in past. so many people sh
tax rates. there's ways of doing that. >> republicans always put revenue on the table. democrats always promise to cut spending. we never cut spending. what i'm looking for is more revenue for entitlement reform. >> and john boehner's called for a short term fix to overt the fiscal cliff so congress can work on on a bigger deal in 2013. but in an op-ed, republican senator bob corker says both sides need to carve out a $4 trillion package that includes both revenue hikes and spending...
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they will accept higher tax revenue. the democrats still want higher tax rates. i'm saying, everybody, that the republicans are the ones doing the shifting here. the democrats are holding right where they always have been. sandra: republicans are definitely shifting, now talking about revenue, not about raising tax rates, very different than that. but also put their foot down when it comes to entitlements, medicare and social security. they are also going to address spending in ways that democrats are not going to be happy about. so everybody is going to have to sort of cave here, it would seem. stuart: there has to be compromise on the other side as well as republicans on tax. maybe the democrats have to compromise on entitlement reform at some point. they haven't yet. sandra: grover norquist has already come out and said nobody is caving here, if they do, it is just a trap the republicans are falling into. and this is going to be horrible for republicans, especially in the next election. liz: he also pointed out that george h.w. bush won gulf war one and then r
they will accept higher tax revenue. the democrats still want higher tax rates. i'm saying, everybody, that the republicans are the ones doing the shifting here. the democrats are holding right where they always have been. sandra: republicans are definitely shifting, now talking about revenue, not about raising tax rates, very different than that. but also put their foot down when it comes to entitlements, medicare and social security. they are also going to address spending in ways that...
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republicans are resisting the idea that inleasing tax rates on the wealthy will steer the country away from the fiscal cliff even though suspects insist it will. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates, but i believe that we can close a lot of lop holes. >> they have to go up, real or effective tax rates, there are ways of doing this and secondly, we have to gross loopholes. >> lindsey graham is okay with new revenue and willing to cap deductions to get it, but only if democrats agree to reform entitlements like social security and medicare. >> i don't expect the democrats to go for premium ouci do expect them to adjust these entitlement programs before they bankrupt the company. some entilement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator dig durbin, but thinks that social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, smaller things played out long-term that give it solvency. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want
republicans are resisting the idea that inleasing tax rates on the wealthy will steer the country away from the fiscal cliff even though suspects insist it will. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates, but i believe that we can close a lot of lop holes. >> they have to go up, real or effective tax rates, there are ways of doing this and secondly, we have to gross loopholes. >> lindsey graham is okay with new revenue and willing to cap deductions to get it, but...
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. >> they have to go up either real tax rates or effective tax rates. second we have to close significant loopholes. jon: bret baier is the anchor of special report. maybe we can get an explanation from you. the republicans are talking about raising revenue but not raising tax rates. how do they do that? >> reporter: basically they close tax loopholes, they put a cap on deductions. in other words for high income earners let's say the cap was $50,000 you would take in deductions, they don't specify what specific deductions it would be but that is the cap of tax deductions you could take and there by after that point you don't get any more deductions, so the amount of taxes you pay goes up. now this is not new, jon, this is what really mitt romney and paul ryan were running on, as they talked about it they got hammered again and again for not being specific on what tax deductions and loopholes were going to close. but this was the line for the republican standard bearer, the candidate. so when you hear these senators and congressmen talking about that and
. >> they have to go up either real tax rates or effective tax rates. second we have to close significant loopholes. jon: bret baier is the anchor of special report. maybe we can get an explanation from you. the republicans are talking about raising revenue but not raising tax rates. how do they do that? >> reporter: basically they close tax loopholes, they put a cap on deductions. in other words for high income earners let's say the cap was $50,000 you would take in deductions,...